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I was asked to put names who gave to memorial listed in bulletin and I said no.

  • Question: I was asked to put names who gave to memorial listed in bulletin and I said no.

    We are a small church and to list the names of people who gave, I think embarrasses and puts pressure on people who can not afford to give. The ones that want it listed are blessed and we have elderly widows that are barley getting by. I said and wished I hadn't that if they want to be recognized then I would get a sticker for the lapel that said ( I gave). I feel like I need to apologize , But I'm still angry.

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  • To me, I believe that our mercy is suppossed to be private and personal, between us and God, and that when we express mercy, we are not supposed to publicize it.

  • Don't be angry and there is no need to list everyone who gave in a bulletin. You could put a note in the bulletin and say thank you everyone and we all gave in some way. What anyone gives is between you and God. God loves a cheerful giver. I don't recall seeing anything about a proud giver in the bible. I understand how you feel and I will pray for your little church. Don't lose faith. God knows your heart.

  • There should be no divisions within the church. It's like Jesus argueing with Himself. Not good. That being said, I suggest strongly to go to the pastor and tell him your concerns, and in my eyes, it is very justified. Ask him politely to do away with the list, and let the giving be between that person and God alone.

    There is no rewards from God for those who gives and seeks approval of man. That is what this list is doing, seeking approval from man, not God.

  • Amen to these answers.

  • I don't beleive the names should have been listed but for different reasons, not giving is a lack of faith in God's promises to supply all your needs, He even tells us to prove Him with our giving, but if someone wishes to give in secret that is their perogative. Also some of the people that didn't give may have been stewarts of giving in other places and need not be subjected to "fruit inspectors" judging their works.

  • i would suggest changing churches!!

  • I wouldn't say changing churches because you can be that one believer who explains the right way to do things according to the bible and God will be pleased with that rather than running away that will only leave them to continue doing what isn't right. But as others said and you already know the givers don't need to be acknowledged publicly a simple church announcement saying thank you to those who gave and those that didn't have may God bless you so that you can have to give. Sometimes when I don't have offering I feel bad as it is but when the pastor says we pray so that some may have it next time it helps take away some of my shame. Like texan said you don't want to divide the church I feel if you explain this with the help of the bible your pastor will understand

  • That is not supposed to put out there. You are right. That can make someone feel bad. What you did was right.

  • God says in His Word that when we give , we are to do in secret and that our Father who sees what we do in secret will reward us. When people give and make it known they have had their reward. But they miss out on the joy. God doesn't care about our wallet but our heart. I would be interested why ppl want it to be known to begin with.

  • God says in His Word that when we give , we are to do in secret and that our Father who sees what we do in secret will reward us. When people give and make it known they have had their reward. But they miss out on the joy. God doesn't care about our wallet but our heart. I would be interested why ppl want it to be known to begin with.

  • The MARK of the Beast is about to be enforced,
    And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”- Revelation 13:16-1
    AntiChrist says, “Sunday is our MARK of authority…the church is above the Bible.”- Catholic Record of London, Ontario Sept 1, 1923
    "Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change (Saturday Sabbath to Sunday) was her act... And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things."- H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons.
    Bible prophecy says that “the Mark of the Beast” is the enforcement of SUNday worship in Vatican’s “New World Order”!
    “Sunday laws must be enforced”- quoted as “principles contained in the Constitution” of the original organization (then called the American Sabbath Union), cited in The Lord’s Day Alliance, twenty-fifth Report, page 5
    The following article is a quote from a Nazarene magazine called Newswatch. In its 1994 November/December issue, 4-5, it read, "The French magazine, Foy et Rai, reported from the United Nations Organization in Geneva, Switzerland, that plans are worked out to dissolve the UNO to make way for a World Tribunal. . . . This project and this plan provides for a total unification of church and state, and also provides for a single form of worship. The appointed day for all people will be Sunday. The number received by the people will promise the right to buy or sell.
    "At the end of this statement, a Christian rose and asked the speaker, 'What happens to the minorities who will not accept this plan?' The Christian was told, 'Their number will be cancelled with a black line and they will be deprived of the right to buy or sell and will thus be forced to destruction.' "
    Sunday rest is already in the US Constitution! Scroll down to page 13:
    Says Daniel 7:25, “he shall…think to change times and laws.” The Pope has done this, as these below quotes prove,
    “The Bible says, Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day. The Catholic church says, No! By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day, and command you to keep the first day of the week Sunday. And lo, the entire civilized world bows down in reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic church!”- Father Enright, C.S.S.R. of the Redemptoral College, Kansas City, History of the Sabbath, p.802
    “We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A.D. 364), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.”- The Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50, 3rd edition
    "The Pope has the power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ." "The Pope has the authority and often exercised it, to dispense with the command of Christ."- Decretal, de Tranlatic Episcop. Cap. (The Pope can modify divine law.) Ferraris' Ecclesiastical Dictionary.
    But the Creator God says,
    “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.”- Exodus 20:8-11
    What God has blessed no man can reverse!(Numbers 23:20)
    You may be wondering why it’s so important that we keep the Sabbath of the Lord? Besides the fact that breaking it is sin, biblical fact is the importance of the Sabbath has to deal with who we will choose to obey. We remember to keep the Sabbath because the Sabbath is the Sign or Seal of the authority and power of God.(“for in six days the LORD made…” no god has ever done this). When you keep the Sabbath, you acknowledge God’s power and authority, and the fact that He is The Creator,
    “Verily My Sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a SIGN between Me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.”- Exodus 31:13
    In fact, the Bible declares that God alone is worthy of worship because He created!
    “Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.”- Revelation 4:11
    Now that we know that the Sabbath is His sign of authority and power, you may begin to realize why Satan wants a sabbath also. Satan demands worship! Satan, opposing Jesus, counterfeits his own sabbath as a sign or mark of authority as a god. The Bible a long time ago declared,
    “O Lucifer…thou hast said in thine heart…I will be like the most High.”- Isaiah 14:12-14
    The AntiChrist that resides in Rome seeks to force the world to receive this “mark”. Sunday is the false day of worship! Sabbath(Saturday) is the Seal of God. Keeping Sunday holy is a manmade institution and doctrine. The world has forgotten about that Sabbath commandment, the only commandment by the way that starts with “REMEMBER”.
    If you exalt man made doctrines in the place of the Bible, you worship the Lord in vain,
    “But in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.”- Matthew 15:9
    Remember that breaking the law of God is SIN(1 John 3:4) & the wages of SIN is DEATH! (Romans 6:23) Why not keep the Sabbath holy? Should we not obey God rather than men? Acts 5:29, “We ought to obey God rather than men.”…and does not Revelation 22:14 say,
    “Blessed are they that DO His COMMANDMENTS, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city”?
    What happens to those that receive the Mark?
    “And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”- Revelation 14:9-11

    God Bless.

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